rockhunter1620

Genuine Michigan Gold!

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Hey fellers, to begin with, I don't have enough in my vile to get a decent up-close photo, plus, I've figured out really quick that I need another classifier, and i'm figurin somewhere b'tween a 30 & 50 mesh. I've made only 2 visits to this new creek thats about a 2hr. drive from my house. Both visits were late starts and left the location b'fore sundown. Total time spent at location, approx. 5hrs. each day. Tomorrow will be a 16hr. visit, (sun-up to sun-down).post-25539-0-19117500-1339853468_thumb.j After a good amount of research through the Mi. Geological Survey, I foud this creek cuttin right through the tallest, longest, and one of the oldest, course/rough till, glacial morains in southern MI. This morain is composed of granite and pre-cambrian basalt as well as many difff. metamophic amphibolite and gneiss boulders, rocks, and gravels, as opposed to morains composed, mostly of fine-grained silica and limestone sands.post-25539-0-33803900-1339854349_thumb.jpost-25539-0-03647900-1339854354_thumb.j The creek, as the crow flies is just under a mile long, but in linear length, from the road to main river, it's 2 miles.The morain is "C" shaped and it's about 30mi. long and about 4 mi. at it's widest point at about 1/2 it's length. The surrounding terrain is about 820ft. above sea-level, the creek bed is in a steep sided ravine and is at about 750ft. above sea-level. So from the car to the ravine is about 400yrds. Then one needs to climb down this steep slope about 50ft. or so b'fore you can again, walk without havin to hold onto trees and stuff to just keep yer balance. And this creek is (1) NOT a designated trout stream and (2) is smack-dab in the middle of an extremely large state game area, not a rec. area or state park where rec. panning is limmited or right-out prohibited. So I think I'm good to go, but where exactly does the DNR draw the line b'tween recreational pannin and all-out placer deposit minning? And, do I even care? anyways, on my first visit, without my MD, I dug a couple holes in the creekbed, classified a bucket of material down to sand using just a "2 mesh" and a spagetti strainer, then panned the sands out and found nothing but a couple nice little corral fossils and a golfball sized piece of rose quartz. Packed up, went home, did a little more google earth sat image lookin, and made my 2nd. visit to this creek a little further down stream than the first visit, again ariving much later than would have liked or ment, anyways.(Oh, and the pics so far, are of that 2nd. spot). Had my F-75 w/a 15in. & a 5in. coil with me. The 15in. to scan and map the higher mieralized soil areas of the creek bed,(and this should go without sayin, but on a wide, sweeping curve in this creek where the outside is kinda deep and movin fast, & the inside is a dry gravely bench right up to the bank where you can tell that at some point in the past, water levels were as much as 3ft. but today it's just a dry gravely bench).post-25539-0-11817700-1339856476_thumb.jpost-25539-0-94682900-1339856480_thumb.jpost-25539-0-26460200-1339856485_thumb.j And the 5in. to scan my gravel tailings after all the classifin.So, I have in a small vile, after diggin about a ft. down behind 2 smaller (large rocks,200-300lbs. I'm guessin) 100's of microscopic shiny yellow metal specles mixed with microscopic magnatite & quartz particles that I can't seem to get separated by just pannin. But tomorrow I will be hitttin this place hard, all freakin day, and I have started me a savings jar just fer the angus mac kirk and the 30 mesh I definitely need.(things worth havin, are worth waitin for)!! Brothers, I do believe I'm gonna have a great summer. And as soon as I have enough gold to decently photograph, ya'll will be the first to see it!...RH

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Hang in there tadpole.....good pics and the place sure looks peacful....have you thought about a sluice

in there?....sure hope you find some good gold for "show n tell"....

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Great looking stream, good luck and I can't wait to see some of the gold!!!

Michigan has some Goofy Laws on Prospecting. .55Oz Limit??? What ta Ell?

http://www.michigan....16658--,00.html

http://www.michigan....16034--,00.html

You have to report it before they'll know how much Mich. gold you have, and I can see everyone doing that, :hahaha: :hahaha: , and there's no way for them to test the gold to see if it even came from Mich., any test would show that most of the gold in Mich. is originally from Canada, so stock it what I say!!! :thumbsupanim

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Wonder if they had Gold Limit Cops there?......... RH, out here in the Motherlode, mechanized equipment is what usually separates casual recreational use from full out mining. Good luck, can't wait to see a pic o your gold

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Hang in there tadpole.....good pics and the place sure looks peacful....have you thought about a sluice

in there?....sure hope you find some good gold for "show n tell"....

The only problem with using a sluice in Mich. is that they require you to get a $50 permit :tisk-tisk::th: , to hell with that, just take a piece of carpet and submerge it put some rocks on the corners to hold it down and run your dirt over the carpet, any gold will go down into the carpet and no sluice involved!!!

"In conjunction with the DNR's rules, the Department of Environmental Quality requires a permit for sluice boxes. The permit application, which costs $50, can be found online at www.michigan.gov/jointpermit."

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Frank

If they issue permits for sluice boxes, a lot of people must be doing it and a few are probably very successful at it. Looks like a lot of work and hope it pays off for you.

Steve

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Wonder if they had Gold Limit Cops there?......... RH, out here in the Motherlode, mechanized equipment is what usually separates casual recreational use from full out mining. Good luck, can't wait to see a pic o your gold

LOL!

I have no idea how they would know what you found when.

If they Break the Law and Search you and found say 2oz how would they know when you found it?

Like it's again the Law to have more then $10,000 dollars in hand?

Automatic Bad Thing?

Now Your a Drug Dealer? Terrorist?

I'm surprised the Drug dealers have not gone the Precious metal route to get the money out of the States.

Maybe they have! Maybe that's just a Start of the Money Wars!

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Thanx Don, Skip, El D, and Steve! And ya Don, I'm fixin on gettin me an Angus Mac Kirk sluice real soon, and I don't need no stinking permit!!!! I'm an outlaw, screw'em. There's only one place to park, and that's only room fer one vehicle. And my little car looks like it b'longs to a girl. I leave a "national audobon birds of north america" book on the front seat w/an emty binocular case sittin there. And on the seat in the back there's a pink folded up umbrella and a pair of girls tennis shoes. NO pick and sovel stickers, NO GPAA stickers, NO mossy oak seat covers, NO huntin or Ruger stickers on the car anywhere, :ph34r2: so, if a DNR should pull up and stop, he's gonna look the car over and in the windows, :hmmmmm: and just figure there's a young couple out there somewhere watchin birds, hopefully :inocent:

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Yup ... Playing with the birds and the bees ... ! :)

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Thanx Don, Skip, El D, and Steve! And ya Don, I'm fixin on gettin me an Angus Mac Kirk sluice real soon, and I don't need no stinking permit!!!! I'm an outlaw, screw'em. There's only one place to park, and that's only room fer one vehicle. And my little car looks like it b'longs to a girl. I leave a "national audobon birds of north america" book on the front seat w/an emty binocular case sittin there. And on the seat in the back there's a pink folded up umbrella and a pair of girls tennis shoes. NO pick and sovel stickers, NO GPAA stickers, NO mossy oak seat covers, NO huntin or Ruger stickers on the car anywhere, :ph34r2: so, if a DNR should pull up and stop, he's gonna look the car over and in the windows, :hmmmmm: and just figure there's a young couple out there somewhere watchin birds, hopefully :inocent:

Pure Genius!!!! good luck tomorrow Rocky. If they see the pink umbrella though...they are gonna think Gar is in town from Brazil...dead givaway!! stash that.

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Yer a good man Charlie Brown, when I saw this post I said to meself, YEP if anyone can find gold in Franks neck o the woods it'll be Frank.

Good Luck an Hapy Huntn in the cool waters.

Keep us posted on yer new endeavor buddy.

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Pure Genius!!!! good luck tomorrow Rocky. If they see the pink umbrella though...they are gonna think Gar is in town from Brazil...dead givaway!! stash that.

Hey Bucket, don'tcha mean Evil Suuuuper Genius, no but really, I just want anyone who comes along in law enforcement after assessing the visual evidence of a vehicle parked at a state game area access point, at a time nowhere near huntin season, and without havin any reason to run the plate, to think to himself, "this car belongs to some nature lovin hikers" and decide to NOT bother walkin 600+ yrd. back down that trail, and to just be on his way, after all he's got real poachers and criminals to find, catch, and give tickets to, right? Right! And if Gar feels a little envious of my GF's pink umbrella, I guess he's just gonna have work on gettin some therapy to help him come to terms with his feelins, I guess. It's gonna be a long day tomorrow, I'm probly not gonna get much sleep, I can't wait !!!!!!!!

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:hahaha: I love it!! I can see it now... some pervert thinks he's got an opportunity so he hides out in the bushes waiting for the "Girl" to return to her car and he ends up getting mopped up by an "outlaw super evil genius"!! Seriously though...the thought you put into this is amazing and genius and hopefully it pays off.

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:hahaha: I love it!! I can see it now... some pervert thinks he's got an opportunity so he hides out in the bushes waiting for the "Girl" to return to her car and he ends up getting mopped up by an "outlaw super evil genius"!! Seriously though...the thought you put into this is amazing and genius and hopefully it pays off.

Ya know Bucket, I do keep in the back of my mind, just how many of Wile E. Cyote's plans backfired over the yrs. tryin to catch that darn roadrunner, all of em I'm pretty sure. but it's not the problems that come a feller's way that matters, it's how he handles em that counts!

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Ya know Bucket, I do keep in the back of my mind, just how many of Wile E. Cyote's plans backfired over the yrs. tryin to catch that darn roadrunner, all of em I'm pretty sure. but it's not the problems that come a feller's way that matters, it's how he handles em that counts!

:hahaha: :hahaha: Amen to that brother!!

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Alright fellers, an update for ya from my sunday visit that was s'posed to be all day, sunup to sundown, remember me sayin that? well, I made the mistake of invitin a friend who'd been beggin me to take him with me. Now don't get me wrong, he's a good friend and I love him but he's a useless, whiney-butt pot head who's had it way too easy in life. He's an electrician, he makes $30.-/hr. fingerin household wiring all day and the feller he works for has never told him to pee in a cup, so he's been spendin his evenings gettin high and watchin re-runs of gold fever fer the last 2 yrs. About 4 mo's. ago, all stoned, broke out a credit card and called the #. A week or so later in the mail he got his GPAA hat, stickers, and a mining guide and the membership cards fer a year, and thinkin he could go to any creek or stream, scoop up some gavel, pan it out, and find gold. So yesterday he got himself a big ole pile of rock, sand, and gravely" REALITY".We didn't get there till 9AM, and I told I wouldn't I see any gold till I got through my 3rd. bucket. Meanwhile he kept tellin me he's findin gold, what he kept showin me was tiny, yellowish grains of quartz, I kept sayin, no it ain't gold, but he wouldn't listen. Around noon after pannin out the last of my 3rd. bucket of classified sand, with just a thin layer of black sand in the bottom of my pan, an givin it a few swirls, and finally tappin the pan edge,(I think it's called the "blueberry bounce") I had 6 nice litttle pieces of bright, metalic yellow flour hop to the pan corner as the Fe3O4 slid down. I set the pan flat on the ground and called Jay to come over and take a look and tell me what he was lookin at. It took him him a couple seconds then he exploded! Started hootin and hollerin, then he got a little angry, grabed his little vile filled with those yellowish brown quartz grains, dumped em out, then wanted to celebrate by smokin some pot he had brought with him(what a retard).I sniffered up my little grains of flour while he smoked away. Went dug me another bucket by the boulder where I'd been diggin all along. Classified it down to sand, stratified and panned it out, got me 8 more litttle flour grains, put those in the vile and by then it was 3PM and jay was exausted, tired, beat-up, discouraged, hungry, mosquito bit, shoes and socks soakin wet, (I told him to bring rubber boots but he said he didn't have any, I had an extra pair but it was funnier to not let him know that) He admitted that findin gold was a LOT harder than they make it look on TV. All I could tell him was he needs to get off the dope, get off the couch, and do something with his life, and mostly, QUIT WATCHIN SO MUCH TV. So we packed up and headed fer the car. I'm headin back out there tomorrow, alone, by myself, no helper, no distractions. Tomorrow night or wednesday I'm gonna order a 50 mesh screen/classifier from "Black Cat Mining". I think their the cheapest so far. I really do need to get those bits of sand out of my vile, I hope 50 mesh does it, but I could end up with 60, 80, and 100 mesh screens b'fore it's all over with. Not if, but when I get good at recoverin this fine flour by hand, any and all other gold will be easy money. Oh, and finally, I'm still $100.- short of orderin my angus mac kirk, the house bills got to come first, but by the end of this month I should have that in the mail too. I will keep you fellers posted....RH

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Alright fellers, an update for ya from my sunday visit that was s'posed to be all day, sunup to sundown, remember me sayin that? well, I made the mistake of invitin a friend who'd been beggin me to take him with me. Now don't get me wrong, he's a good friend and I love him but he's a useless, whiney-butt pot head who's had it way too easy in life. He's an electrician, he makes $30.-/hr. fingerin household wiring all day and the feller he works for has never told him to pee in a cup, so he's been spendin his evenings gettin high and watchin re-runs of gold fever fer the last 2 yrs. About 4 mo's. ago, all stoned, broke out a credit card and called the #. A week or so later in the mail he got his GPAA hat, stickers, and a mining guide and the membership cards fer a year, and thinkin he could go to any creek or stream, scoop up some gavel, pan it out, and find gold. So yesterday he got himself a big ole pile of rock, sand, and gravely" REALITY".We didn't get there till 9AM, and I told I wouldn't I see any gold till I got through my 3rd. bucket. Meanwhile he kept tellin me he's findin gold, what he kept showin me was tiny, yellowish grains of quartz, I kept sayin, no it ain't gold, but he wouldn't listen. Around noon after pannin out the last of my 3rd. bucket of classified sand, with just a thin layer of black sand in the bottom of my pan, an givin it a few swirls, and finally tappin the pan edge,(I think it's called the "blueberry bounce") I had 6 nice litttle pieces of bright, metalic yellow flour hop to the pan corner as the Fe3O4 slid down. I set the pan flat on the ground and called Jay to come over and take a look and tell me what he was lookin at. It took him him a couple seconds then he exploded! Started hootin and hollerin, then he got a little angry, grabed his little vile filled with those yellowish brown quartz grains, dumped em out, then wanted to celebrate by smokin some pot he had brought with him(what a retard).I sniffered up my little grains of flour while he smoked away. Went dug me another bucket by the boulder where I'd been diggin all along. Classified it down to sand, stratified and panned it out, got me 8 more litttle flour grains, put those in the vile and by then it was 3PM and jay was exausted, tired, beat-up, discouraged, hungry, mosquito bit, shoes and socks soakin wet, (I told him to bring rubber boots but he said he didn't have any, I had an extra pair but it was funnier to not let him know that) He admitted that findin gold was a LOT harder than they make it look on TV. All I could tell him was he needs to get off the dope, get off the couch, and do something with his life, and mostly, QUIT WATCHIN SO MUCH TV. So we packed up and headed fer the car. I'm headin back out there tomorrow, alone, by myself, no helper, no distractions. Tomorrow night or wednesday I'm gonna order a 50 mesh screen/classifier from "Black Cat Mining". I think their the cheapest so far. I really do need to get those bits of sand out of my vile, I hope 50 mesh does it, but I could end up with 60, 80, and 100 mesh screens b'fore it's all over with. Not if, but when I get good at recoverin this fine flour by hand, any and all other gold will be easy money. Oh, and finally, I'm still $100.- short of orderin my angus mac kirk, the house bills got to come first, but by the end of this month I should have that in the mail too. I will keep you fellers posted....RH

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Glad to hear you're finding color ... and great advice to the tag a long. I can't wait to hear what you find under that boulder. Good luck to ya !!!!

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Frank your supposed to learn from Wile E. Coyote....not take him with you!! Well atleast you found gold out there, when I lived in Gwinn,MI the skeeters were as big as tennis balls.

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Hello I'm in southeast mi as well . The laws you guys are reading only go for state owned lands . The only reason there are them laws at all is because the Michigan gpaa thought if they could get some laws then people would beleave there's gold in Michigan . At the LDMA claim In Athens there's no permits . There's no limit on gold . You can dredge with what ever size dredge you wish and anytime of the year you wish . You don't have to hide , when people ask what your doing just say your looking for rocks and people just feel sorry for you and smile and leave . We had two high bankers setup on this gravel bar which is in a park for half the summer last year and getting ready to start dredging it now . The DNR came by and made sure we weren't fish without a lic did not care that we were dig up gold . Kinda just laughed like were nuts ,and also had my drivers lic taken and returned by the Oakland county sewer and water dep . That guy flipped out saying is was a crimal for dig up sediments or something like that . Acted like some big shot I know that . Problem he found is there was no problem . We have lots of gold but it's just specks . It's anywhere there's gravel . You can walk down any gravel road and look after a rain for black sand and there's gold in that . You can go to any gravel pit and get some sand and there's gold in that . What hard to find is the pockets . Only a few people even know there's gold in Michigan , but the truth is ,it's everywhere but very small . That's my problem building a dredge for this kinda gold . I bought a Keene 4" power jet and hose . Got a bunch of miners moss and ribbed mat . I'm making the sluice 14' long and 2' wide . The two sluice boxes will stack on top of each other , then I.m adding a header box . I do ok with the high banker because I m getting around 12 specks to the shovel full . So Im think if I could just move more material I should be golden . One way or the other that gold in that river bend and gravel bar will end up in my pocket . I've taken way to much ribbing from friends and family to fail I know that . I also have 5 kids and they love it to

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Rock hunter I would save your money on the screens and get you a sluice box . Lay a peace of 1/4 hardware cloth across to top to classifi it down some so the box don't just load up . Looks like you might need to dam up the stream some to get good flow . Just panning for gold will never work . I would also look for a gravel bar with a deeper hole above and test pan at the top the gravel bar . You can make a sluice box real easy . Don't worrie about getting in trouble it's not a problem . This is away to test for gold in Michigan

This video is me on the flint river just north of Lapeer . Looks like your over by st Clair . A good spot is over at Pontiac rec . I mine there sometimes . Lots of Garret's There to . If you look at the map go on the Huron river just down stream from white lk rd . It's all very hard packed there down maybe a 1/4 mile and very good flow and drop . That first deep hole down from the bridge is full of pyrite so take your buddy there and he will think he had found a good pocket . There's gold in it to . Lots of Garret's . Just tell people your looking for rocks . I've never had anybudy ask or come by there . The main thing about finding it around here is the river needs to be hard packed . If the gravel is all loose just move on . A few years ago we had that gpaa claim over in Portland . They rented this gravel pit and the guy that owned it would bring up some nice gravel for us to work and there was a nice creek running threw it . We found some bigger stuff and even some pickers . Diamons , what we did was just run the medal detector till we found a hot spot and worked that . There was also these layers of iron you could work that had gold , last I herd is that hand coop guy was building a sluice for the owners wash plant and then we all got kicked out . Gravel pits anywhere in this state will have gold .

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Hello I'm in southeast mi as well .

___Hey Pesky, yep, my biggest priority is to git my hands on a sluice, eack week I stash a little more $ towards it. I've already had some correspondence with Angus himself out in Idaho, and I have picked out a 70 in. "Alaskan" w/ a flair inlet, it'll have 48 riffles and comes in 3 parts that bolt together in seconds. But I will need a 50 mesh, and a 80 mesh screens, those are alot cheaper than a $400.-$500. "Gold cube". And the creek I'm workin is on public land, somewhere b'tween FlatRock and Sebewa Sand and Gravel, I've been there to the old GPAA lease. And I am intimately educated in Michigan's topography and geological history. Go to my profile, click on and read my past postings. I've actually recovered some meteorite material here in Mi. And the Au is just gonna finance my meteorite huntin. I already have gold in my poke that's in a vile, I just need the 50 &80 mesh screens to separate it from sand grains that are just as small as the Au, but I got a sluice on the way, I'm on it brother, but I do appreciate yer input, maybe we'll cross trails one day, good huntin to ya!.....RH

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I found this green rock that I'm just dieing to find out what kind of rock it is . Maybe you could help with that . It's the only 1 I have ever found . I know you would have to see but it's a dark green then layered in a lighter green then it goes dark again . It's also really smooth . It's like one of kind

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I found this green rock that I'm just dieing to find out what kind of rock it is . Maybe you could help with that . It's the only 1 I have ever found . I know you would have to see but it's a dark green then layered in a lighter green then it goes dark again . It's also really smooth . It's like one of kind

Well, from just yer verbal discrption and no pic all I can say is that it's probably a sedimentary shale or limestone, water-worn cobble stone. Post a nice, focused photo taken outdoors under natural light. You said you live in S.E. Mi. I live in Flat Rock. Lets cross trails sometime. These fellers yer askin advice from on this forum, there a good bunch of fellers. I've personaly drove 2000+ miles just to attend a weekend outing out there in AZ last year. Just fer the purpose of meetin face to face Bill Southern, Frank C. and a few others, and of course to do some quality Mohave desert meteorite huntin in Gold basin.

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