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Who make's the best Spiral wheel

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Bought one of the first ones out back in the early 80's- the gold hound. Bowl was s/s and had a rubber mat w/ 3-4 pickups. Cleaned the 8" dredge out every day. Screened material down and picked and panned that; everything that went thru a kitchen seive went into the goldhound. Ran material thru first pulling black sand and gold out then second time pulled the gold out. Could you pan it all faster? maybe but not sitting in an easy chair and beer in hand! It paid for itself in a little over a week. Sold it maybe 15 years ago and bought it back about 4 years ago. Grooves have lost their sharp edges but still works well with a beer still in my hand!

Shep

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classification and feed rate is key!!!!!!!!! do this and any wheel will out do a pan. stay tune to my latest up dates's to the feeder and gold table and a highbanker with a trammel topper?????????????????? I am thinking this is all one needed to clean gold and get 92% of what you have dug up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or a gold cube would work to make super cons like I use the fox. it is all about having control over what your doing................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

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Gold Cube and Blue Bowl will be here this week.

All i have left is a sluice.

And it looks like i am going to make one with Gold Hog Mat.

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Could i get a link to the Le Trap.

Thankyou

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I am glad i did not buy a spiral wheel, and bought Blue Bowl and Gold Cube.

Gold Cube and Blue Bowel works so much better.

Was up at a GPAA meeting and lot of people watched demo with spiral wheel and it does not even come close to Gold Cube and Blue bowel.

You can run WAY WAY WAY more material with a Gold Cube and Blue Bowel.

Wheel was like watching grass grow.

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Le Traps are great! Arctic Dave has one and I personally use the Angus MacKirk/Camel brand. Dave and I both like it in some ways better because of it being a stiffer plastic with practically no flex and two flat aluminum bars to lay a rock to hold it down. It is also the drop riffle type. It is one of the best sluices I've owned and ALL the gold stays within the top 3 to 4 riffles or so. You can get them in just about any length that you want, I've seen some around 8 feet long. They are also using them in dredges with Great results.

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My 30 + year mantra has been utilized by many 10s a thousands-ifn' it ain't got a hole through the middle it ain't worth a diddle-double runs mandatory and triple preclassification as pontificated previously. Lotza work as you still gotta run the 75-300 mesh through the blue bowl to get it. You can make anything work to some extent and NUTTN' EVER CAME CLOSE TO THE ORIGINAL GOLDHOUND-the innovation of the wheel design,too bad he went back to the coal fields as starved with gold equipmwnt mfg. Turned down buying patents just like blue bowl too--just money and cuts into my mining time so 2 LL with it,working shows and rubbn' elbows with liars,thieves and politicos I'd rather shoot than meet and greet- baaaaa gone mining,like yesterday,and it was gooooooooooooooood-John

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I am making three sluice's for me and 2 friend's.

4' 6" main sections with 4' extension's. out of 0.65 Aluminum 9"wide.

Using Gold Hog Mat. UR Scrubber and the new Razorback.

Hard to beat what is working for thousands around the world.

Ran across a few old timer's and they are having great success with this mat.

They also use Gold Cube and Blue Bowel, we like what's working right now with them.

They do not use spiral wheels anymore because the Gold Cube allow's you to run way way more material.

Seams i fell into a few guys that are all on the same page.

I know there is other stuff that works great but this is where i am at for now.

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In my eyes the Cube and gold Wheels are stay at home equipment for finale clean up. They both require to much classification to be productive in the field. Me I like to move yards why'll at the river not classifying a few buckets why'll you should be running dirt seems like better time management. Plus there's more gold in yards than a few buckets. But if you dont have a highbanker or a sluice box and want to keep the cost down I would say the cube is the best bet but you'll be limited to the size of gold you can process to i beleave 1/8 rock the cube handles but I think the cube would allow you to move more dirt at the river than a gold wheel dose unless its Keenes miner's big wheel. Hmmm I haven't seen a miner sized cube yet but who knows. the cube dose fantastic on any size gold smaller then 1/8 and that's most of the gold to be found anyway. but for me I'll give up the speed on the small stuff and keep my wheel being if I ever fined a good place that offers up lots of pickers and I get tired of panning them I'll use the wheel for what it dose best putting clean picker sized gold in your cup clean then use the wheel to super concentrate my 20mess and smaller to run on the table or a blue bowl.

The cube with a trommel topper I think could be pretty productive at the river.. after using a trommel topper I'll never go back to much time lost cleaning grizzly bar's and or punch plates instead or running dirt.

I havent seen the blue bowl or a cube on any of the gold shows yet unless I missed an episode but I did see the Christen Rose crew using a wheel for more than one season and saying they use it to get the small stuff. it looked like they where making super concentrate with it. so if the small wheels can keep up with a sluice box the size of the Rose's it should keep up with my shovel and little highbanker. heck to have any fun any more I have to go out at least 10 time to get enough sluice cons to have any fun cleaning it at home

they all work if used as designed and all have a give and take just depends on the task at hand I try to look at them all as tools. if I want to cut a straight line in a sheet of plywood I'd use a Festool panel saw not a skill saw although both will do the job and give the same results if one knows how to use the tools. One day I will add the cube to my tool chest tell then I'll use the wheel like a skill saw . I just have to take my time be carefull and keep it steady

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I agree.

Thanks for Info.

We are looking at building a field trammel clasifier or using them under our High Banking sluice's.

3/16 is what has been going threw the Gold Cube.

20 mesh is where we had problem with blue bowl, will keep at it thow.

I seen the cube on the show tonight Bearing sea up in Nome ak

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yep watched it today on DVR and there it was being used the cube Nice!! One day I'll get one but I still want to make the highbanker longer and use gold hog matting witch means I'll need a second pump to pick up the 800 gph my signal pump is falling sort on for gold hog matting.

I built my trommel for under a 100 bucks but i already had the control box and the highbanker top with most of the pluming. I used a rubber maid like trash can from wally world 4.97 6' of 3/4 flexible pipe 3.99 at Lowes a robotic motor off ebay 8.99 + shipping 20 bucks on the extra PVC pluming and the rest I had in the shop Epoxy duck tape screws and two Easy Starter R/C air plane wheels and a bit of the Polycarbonate plastic left over from the highbanker top build. The key to keeping the Trash can rigged was to fill the Flexible pipe with Epoxy after getting it installed with duck tape then I came back and put a few skrews in it to hold it in place and removed the tape then I drilled the holes. I got 20 5 gallon buckets of 1/2" rock ran and the motor is still hanging in there so far

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Thats cool.

Lets see some photo's

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Thats cool.

Lets see some photo's

I could try and pull some photos off my videos but here's some video's of the trommel and I think a bit of how I use my gold wheel for -30 mess being that's what I find

test run video. I got another 20 buckets run after this video I think Its ready for a trip back to the honey hole in denver 250 miles away you'll see why I'd brake ice to run some rocks soon but first we must dig !!!!!!!!

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Very impressive.

I take my hat off to you.

Looks like material runs threw it fast.

I notice the R/C stuff, Nice Deans connector and wheels.

Maybe i should take my Mikado Heli apart so i can make money.

I am going to start welding all the aluminum i have fabed up over the last month starting tomorrow.

I have friend that was up there last week end and seen how cold it was.

I live down in Pueblo for 52 years.

Cold plus water = BURRRRRR

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Very impressive.

I take my hat off to you.

Looks like material runs threw it fast.

I notice the R/C stuff, Nice Deans connector and wheels.

Maybe i should take my Mikado Heli apart so i can make money.

I am going to start welding all the aluminum i have fabed up over the last month starting tomorrow.

I have friend that was up there last week end and seen how cold it was.

I live down in Pueblo for 52 years.

Cold plus water = BURRRRRR

hey thanks

It dose run a bit fast I am bulding a new drum with a bit smaller holes and a few less of them

Ya I had some deans laying around the shop too. You could use some of your heli stuff but I think the gear ratio my spin the drum a bit fast get ready for take off and look out for flying rocks LOL just kidding

ya welding I dont have a welder and after building the trailer for my car I think I better stay with welding steel before moving to aluminum or My box may end up with a few holes I really dont want. One big reason I went with Polycarbonate plastic. Plus it's strong light and only cost 20 bucks out of the scrap bin from plasticare down in Denver and it welds up nicely for me with a bit of glue. we'll see how it holds up over time but so far it has take a fall down the hill to my honey hole and handles the bouncy ride in the trailer

oh man last week had to be warmer than a few mounths back when I did this video before the trommel build. I cant wait should be on my way back to denver in a week or so and plan on hitting the honey hole with the trommel why'll down there and I got 3 friends that are going to help dig and see how she dose. I am hoping like you it's going to be warmer

but my vote still go's to the wheels that have a hole in the center and variable speed is nice to. I was like most and the wheel was my first thang after a pan and it didn't change a thing for me. I still didn't know how to pan and the wheel didn't change that by much and I hated it but after learning more from the local club guys about prospecting and the wheel was only a tool for recovery and not a tool for the feild I soon started liking it again after realizing how much digging I had to do before making it worth why'll in firing up the wheel. the fox wheel say's 70 pounds an hour a bit much than I think for the small stuff but to have 70 pounds of cons I would have to clean out my sluice box a bunch to get an hour of fun. I've Never put it on a scale but I dont even think about firing up the wheel tell I got at least 10 clean outs from the highbanker. this gives me a few hours of fun in the shop after many trips and hours out digging.I could run it after every trip out but I like seeing lots of gold so panning my cons after a day of digging to see about how much I got holds me over and adds to the excitement for the day its time to run it

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I was at the last GPAA meeting in Colorado Springs.

You might run across a guy name George where you are working the creek there.

He also has Vortex mating he sells for 11.00 a square foot. Same as what is in the gold cube.

You can take the gold cube's out in the field and also do the same thing you are by using a 3/16 screen or punch plate over the top.

You can run a whole bunch of material threw a gold cube in a day and catch all the gold.

I am glad i bought one, it also gets used by all your friends. Works real good.

I am sure you know about: Alreco Aluminum Surplus

11299 Brighton Road

Henderson, CO 80640-9335 map

Phone:

(303) 287-7210

They have a lot of aluminum material you can get used and cheep.

You can buy small piece's.

I have all my friend's that have bought from them for years.

I have never been there but have a lot of material that has come from there.

I am welding this week but problem is my welder is down here in FL now.

I will be sending all the fab up sluice's back to CO soon and hope to be in the hills in a couple months.

If you sent me your box i could weld it but i am sure you could ask someone on craigs list to weld it up for you cheep.

I have also like you been learning and find that classification is very very important.

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The spiral wheel does recover fine gold. I went to Lynx creek and used the wheel to recover gold after I brought the black sand home. I attached a picture. The red circles show some fine gold that was classified through a -100 mesh screen. I put the sand in the wheel, I let it run a minute and a couple dozen specks came out. I let it run longer and a few more came out. At least a couple dozen of those smaller -100 mesh specks would be needed to cover the letter on a penny.

The other picture shows the total take for the day.

I much prefer a miller table to the wheel. Its much better recovery.

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My friend went with a gold prospector yesterday.

They had a dozen high school boys that went with them on some sort of event.

He took my Gold Cube And the Prospector took his.

They went to a known hole in clear creek where they have been getting fine Gold for a long time now and worked the hole all day.

There was a guy there that brought his wheel and ran it.

They ran 30 5 gallon buckets of classified material threw the Cube.

By the end of the day they realized the wheel worked good but only for a very very small amount of material.

Day and night difference.

He could not believe it.

THey actually had to give him a pan so he could check what was coming out of the Gold Cube's, He found no gold was been lost.

So he went to work with one of the cube's with my friend and went home with gold.

Every one went home with over a pound in cons that had lot of gold in it.

the hole got better the deeper it went.

It was a great day.

Please check out the Gold Cube, now that i have one i am very happy, it is the best tool in my box.

Go work with a Gold Cube is the only way to see first hand.

And then they are headed home to run cons threw a blue bowl for fine recovery, Blue bowl is only 75 bucks and does a great job.

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I have a gold cube and I think I like it, but the only thing I'm missing is gold bearing material to run through it. I like that it only makes a cup of cons to pan through. With that little cons, I prefer to use a miller table, but for the pictures I took above, I had left the miller table somewhere else and couldn't wait a couple weeks to get it back.

Even better than a gold cube, I like a reverse Helix trommel. That can move some material and produces even less cons than the gold cube.

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Where can i find info on a reverse Helix trommel.

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For the reverse Helix trommel, here's one company:

http://wildboarprospecting.com/

And here's another:

http://www.newageminingequipment.us/

Way I look at it, the reverse helix system is like a giant spiral wheel that pushes heavies to the top. They're pretty expensive and I have not found gold on my claim that will justify me buying one, but my partner has one and it works good on his claim. The heavies that come out the top are run through a sluice and make very little black sands. I've tested the sluice run off and found very little gold in the sluice tailings. When I've tested the trommel tailings, I've found nothing. These are can run about a dozen buckets an hour, but have a max capacity much more than that.

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Very interesting.

And seams like there priced pretty good. 1,500.00 to 3,000.00

Just add up the material and time.

Seams the hardest part is the spiral cut in the tube, all the other stuff is just basic material.

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