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#1 Dakota Slim

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 06:04 PM

USFS defends road closures at House panel hearing in Elko


The Associated Press

ELKO, Nev.

A regional boss for the Forest Service is defending the agency's decision to close some roads in national forests.

Intermountain Regional Forester Harv Forsgren emphasized in testimony prepared for a congressional hearing in Elko on Monday that the travel management plans are part of "an going process" across the West.
He says they may need to be modified as new information becomes available and circumstances change.
Forsgren acknowledges some road closures are unpopular and may force changes in the way people experience national forests.
But he says some new designations are necessary to protect natural and cultural resources from an explosion in the use of off-highway vehicles the past 15 years.
He says the number of OHVs registered in Utah alone more than tripled from 52,000 in 1998 to 172,000 in 2006.
THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.
A congressional panel is in northeast Nevada for a field hearing on what critics say is excessive environmental regulation on federal lands across the West.
The House Resources subcommittee on national parks, forests and public lands will hear from a number of witnesses from Nevada, Utah, New Mexico and Arizona at the hearing beginning at 1 p.m. Monday at the Elko Convention Center.
The House panel is chaired by Utah Republican Rob Bishop. He says the hearing will examine the "Explosion of Federal Regulations Threatening Jobs and Economic Survival in the West."
Nevada Republican Congressman Mark Amodei requested the hearing based on criticism of the U.S. Forest Service's travel management plans. Critics say the agency wants to make criminals out of anyone who travels on closed roads on national forests.


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Posted 12 March 2012 - 06:15 PM

Hey, why not just make some big parking lots and make the ATV'ers go round and round in circles? :idea:
Remember when I said I was starting to get an idea of how the Indians felt when they were rounded up and put on reservations?
The feeling is getting much stronger now.
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Posted 12 March 2012 - 06:22 PM

Here's a slightly different story....

Forest Service defends road closures at hearing
The Associated Press


ELKO, Nev.

A U.S. Forest Service regional official on Monday defended the agency's decision to close some roads in national forests across the West as an unpopular but necessary response to a rapid increase of off-road vehicle travel.

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Regional Forester Harv Forsgren said in testimony prepared for a congressional field hearing in Elko that motor vehicle use has damaged natural and cultural resources.


Forsgren said he is aware the restrictions "may change the way people experience their national forests." But he said he wants such plans is "an ongoing process" and suggested that officials are willing to modify the plan if circumstances change.
Forsgren oversees 34 million acres of national forest land in Nevada, Utah, western Wyoming, western Colorado and eastern California. He spoke before the House Resources subcommittee on national parks, forests and public lands.
Rep. Rob Bishop, a Republican from Utah and chairman of the subcommittee, agreed to hold the hearing in rural northeast Nevada at the request of freshman GOP Rep. Mark Amodei and Elko County activists critical of the road plans and other policies they view as excessive regulation of federal lands across the West.
County commissioners representing several Western states lined up to testify against the Forest Service's evolving roads' policy.
Bishop, a critic of the plan, said "the last four to five decades have witnessed a paradigm shift toward a hands-off policy or preservation." He added, "we need our land managers working with us to keep the public's lands open for the use and enjoyment of all."
Amodei said access to public lands in Nevada is "critical to job creation and our economic viability."
The travel rule and its subsequent implementation "are only serving to advance an anti-human and anti-use agenda that is contrary to the multiple-use mandate for these lands," said Howard Hutchinson, executive director of the Coalition of Arizona/New Mexico Counties.
The Forest Service is at various stages of updating road designations in dozens of national forests across the West, including the Humboldt-Toiyabe National Forest that covers more than 6 million acres of Nevada and eastern California, including a good chunk of Elko County.
Elko County Commissioner Demar Dahl, who traveled to Washington, D.C., late last year to testify before the same House subcommittee, said the agency's plans would limit off-road game retrieval and make criminals out of recreationists who've been traveling uncharted roads for years.
Gerald Temoke, chairman of the Elko Band Council for the Te-Moak Tribe of Western Shoshone in northeast Nevada, said his ancestors have been hunting in the area for centuries, cutting wood and gathering roots and medicinal plants.
"We have been walking, then riding and now driving around these mountains for hundreds, more likely thousands of years," Temoke said, adding that "existing roads that are not on the Forest Service map are considered not to exist."

Forsgren said the federal rule that initiated review of the national forest road system was adopted under the administration of President George W. Bush in 2005, and was "prompted by the explosion in use of off-highway vehicles for recreation and other outdoor activities on national forest system land over the past several decades and the need to manage that use..."
In Utah alone, he said, the number of registered OHVs more than tripled from almost 52,000 in 1998 to more than 172,000 in 2006.
Elko County Commissioner Charlie Myers said the road closures will have a negative impact on hunters in the county that's the "hunting mecca for the state of Nevada."
"It will severely and negatively impact our economy forever," he said.

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 06:24 PM

Gerald Temoke, chairman of the Elko Band Council for the Te-Moak Tribe of Western Shoshone in northeast Nevada, said his ancestors have been hunting in the area for centuries, cutting wood and gathering roots and medicinal plants.
"We have been walking, then riding and now driving around these mountains for hundreds, more likely thousands of years," Temoke said, adding that "existing roads that are not on the Forest Service map are considered not to exist."

This is true. And many our forefathers have been riding and driving around these mountains for hundreds of years. Who gave the Forest Service permission to redo the maps?
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Posted 12 March 2012 - 07:47 PM

Gotta Keep the Posted Image in the Pen Ya Know!

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 06:47 AM

Everywhere you turn there is more and more of this... We all (public land users) have a long fight on our hands.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 08:09 AM

Forsgren said the federal rule that initiated review of the national forest road system was adopted under the administration of President George W. Bush in 2005, and was "prompted by the explosion in use of off-highway vehicles for recreation and other outdoor activities on national forest system land over the past several decades and the need to manage that use..."



Notice the reference to Bush? The use of the word "explosion"? The "need to manage that use"?
I guarantee this started way before Bush and these are the words of an opinionated leftist. He certainly doesn't speak for me and the fact that this meeting was necessary means that he doesn't speak for them either. The question is, who does he speak for?
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 03:54 PM

The environmental extremists is who they are speaking for. They have been filling the jobs at the FS for a long time and now they are pushing their personal agenda on the rest of us. They try to block mining, oil & gas exploration by making wide swaths of land wilderness study areas. I can just see that they are going to push it too far one of these days and have a rebellion on their hands. What makes me mad is the FS is an administrative agency but they seem to think they can make the rules. At least according to their numbers, there seems to be a thriving OHV industry here.
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 04:12 PM

It's time for Ronald again....

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 08:45 PM

Sage words from a 'mere actor' ... who just happened to become one of our greatest Presidents ... We need more like 'Ronnie' as he was called by wife Nancy! Mike F

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