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#41 sawmill

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Posted 18 February 2014 - 01:50 PM

Not to be a spoil sport,and since this is a public forum ,with lots of readers new to

prospecting on public land, a few words of caution.

 

 Absolutley no explosives of any type,can be used for casual mining or prospecting.

No electric ,air or gas hammers or drills are allowed either. Only hand tools such as

picks,shovels,hammers,gads,or chisels are allowed for excavation period.

 

 Use of power tools,or explosives,requires ,permits,notice or plan of operations,and

bonds.  Any violation of the casual use rules can result in fines,damages, and getting

black listed from prospecting on public lands. If you are doing any of these on your

claim,it can result in losing your claim too. Anything above casual use,requires a notice,

or plan ,and bonds.

 

 The only approved electric or motorized equipment for casual use is highbankers,

drywashers,or vacs,and dredges where allowed, 10 horsepower is the max for these.



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Posted 18 February 2014 - 02:03 PM

Not to be a spoil sport,and since this is a public forum ,with lots of readers new to

prospecting on public land, a few words of caution.

 

 Absolutley no explosives of any type,can be used for casual mining or prospecting.

No electric ,air or gas hammers or drills are allowed either. Only hand tools such as

picks,shovels,hammers,gads,or chisels are allowed for excavation period.

 

 Use of power tools,or explosives,requires ,permits,notice or plan of operations,and

bonds.  Any violation of the casual use rules can result in fines,damages, and getting

black listed from prospecting on public lands. If you are doing any of these on your

claim,it can result in losing your claim too. Anything above casual use,requires a notice,

or plan ,and bonds.

 

 The only approved electric or motorized equipment for casual use is highbankers,

drywashers,or vacs,and dredges where allowed, 10 horsepower is the max for these.

 

 

 

I believe that Geolo's tripod would be acceptable. Yes? No?


G-pa made me do it, he gave me my first "Steel" pan.

#43 sawmill

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Posted 18 February 2014 - 03:59 PM

Steel Pan

 Yes it would be considered to be a hand tool in that sense. But removing boulders

from a wash in any large amount ,could play heck with the minimal ground disturbance,

part of the casual use regulations on public land. A lot would depend on what kind of an

attitude the local BLM ,or Forest Service has about that.



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Posted 18 February 2014 - 04:39 PM

For some reason I can quote but not post at the same time.
Anyway,...
I my case, I move the first boulder, the second
one I move goes in the first boulder's spot, and so on.
Never actually removing the boulders from the stream.
G-pa made me do it, he gave me my first "Steel" pan.

#45 sawmill

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Posted 18 February 2014 - 04:57 PM

Steel Pan

  Kinda like walking and chewing gum. :ROFL: with the posting.

I figured that you know the ropes,and know how to avoid problems. Some

of us can work the hell out of a spot ,and leave it looking great. But there is

others that could make a mess in a pig pen! :grr01:



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Posted 18 February 2014 - 05:21 PM

Things are pretty messed up right now.
No smilies, can't bold or anything.
Can't even cancel before I post.
It happens from time to time.
I figure it's on my end, my 'puter is
in bad need of an upgrade/cleanout.

It's pretty hard to tell, if at all, that
I've done anything after about a week.
Tailings from stream go back into the stream.
Everything goes behind me as I work my way upstream.
G-pa made me do it, he gave me my first "Steel" pan.

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Posted 18 February 2014 - 05:22 PM

Hey Steve, well I got to move a couple of the smaller rocks on my first day running there. I ran dirt all day and didn't get a speck of gold. So all the boulders are still there waiting for me. Paul, I will post some of my next good finds for sure but it doesn't look like it will be from this spot. I thought it would be a great spot because I've done real good just about a 100 feet upstream, from there. As far as the dynamite goes, I would like to be able to use explosives If I knew how to properly but I also don't want to blow myself up. So far it's just been a pry bar and the "roll 'em" technique for me.

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Posted 18 February 2014 - 05:37 PM

Sawmill, many of our club members use small electric or gas jackhammers to do the same job as with a pick. They are not busting rocks just breaking up the same material we use picks on. Some of them also use small rotortillers to further break up hard clay or caliche.
I have not been able to find the rules for casual mining or prospecting. If this is in violation of a law or regs. we need to know.
Thank you, Ed

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Posted 18 February 2014 - 06:03 PM

ED

 

 Unless your club has a plan of operations,it is illegal to use the tools that you

mentioned. I will find those regs ,and post them. Some club claims are operating

under a plan,as some even do dozer scrapes.



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Posted 18 February 2014 - 09:45 PM

So if a boulder blows up in the middle of the desert and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?  :idunno:



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Posted 19 February 2014 - 07:20 AM

Boulders can't even moan.
G-pa made me do it, he gave me my first "Steel" pan.

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 08:46 AM

Heavy leather gloves, Keene rock net, 1/4 steal rope, a cable grip, a 2 ton hand winch and a spud bar.


http://www.micro-bla...om/products.htm

Edited by nvchris, 24 February 2014 - 08:56 AM.

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 12:19 PM

Ok, I still like KabOOOOOM!   Takes 10 minutes to set up and move the Rubble.    Wooose?   Use Crackomite.   Silent explosive and a extra day.



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Posted 22 March 2014 - 11:04 PM

Best way to move boulders?

Dupont rock softener.  :thumbsupanim  :4chsmu1: AzNuggetBob



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Posted 23 March 2014 - 02:48 PM

azblackbird, on 18 Feb 2014 - 9:45 PM, said:

So if a boulder blows up in the middle of the desert and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?  :idunno:

 

Now that's funny :4chsmu1:


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